Twisting and weaving through pragmatism and ethics
A lot of people don't seem to believe in right and wrong unless it affects another issue which is important to them, personally.
If you come at them from an ethical foundation which falsifies their statist position, they'll preach pragmatism. They'll maintain it's a losing position to worry about the ethics of a situation when it's not pragmatic to do so.
"You can't be bothered to respect rights when it might be dangerous to do so. Anyway, government has the power to do whatever it wants, so you don't have any rights."
But when it's something they feel is important and they think they can make an ethical claim for it, suddenly they'll find ethics more important than pragmatism (even though they usually get it wrong and use morality instead of ethics).
I watch this happen all the time with certain people, both famous and not. It's almost funny and definitely pathetic.
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